I felt the 15 minute interview that Dr. Mercola (DM) conducted with Dr. Kate Rheaum-Bleue (KB) was revealing and enlightening and so important, that I downloaded the transcript. I was surprised to see significant differences between the conversation between DM and KB — as in the video — and that in the transcript.
DM: Hello, this is Dr. Mercola, and today I’m joined by Dr. Kate Rheaume-Bleue, who is a naturopathic physician. She’s the author of Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox, which is a phenomenal Book about one of the most important vitamins that we know of, which is vitamin K2. It’s the best Book I’ve read on this highly under appreciated topic. I’m just delighted to have her here today to share her insights on this really important area. She comes today from Canada. So, thank you for joining us today.
KB: Thanks. I’m glad to be here.
DM: Well, tell us a bit about your training, and how you first became interested in vitamin K2 .
KB: Well, I’m a naturopathic doctor, which in Canada (the area I’m in) is a licensed primary care physician, but, of course, with a keen interest in nutrition.
DM:…so how did you transition into your interest about vitamin K2?
KB: I tuned in to the emerging research about K2 early in 2007. Not long before, I had read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A. Price. When I learned about vitamin K2, I thought, “Hey, you know what? I’m sure Price talked all about this in his Book.” I went to the Book, looked through it, and didn’t find any reference to vitamin K2. I was really stumped A little bit later in 2007, I read a brilliant article by Chris Masterjohn that links vitamin K2 to Price’s work on Activator X.
Once I realized that link, you know, the light bulb went on about how important this nutrient is, and how overlooked it’s been for so long. It really provides the missing piece to the puzzle of so many health conditions, and yet it was being completely overlooked, despite the overwhelming amounts of modern _ day research. I figured somebody will be writing a Book about it soon. I waited a little while, and nobody did. That’s when I realized that I needed to do that, because people need to know this information.
DM: Terrific. I’m glad you did. That’s why as I mentioned earlier…, it is the best Book I’ve ever read on it. …Can you really describe what vitamin K is for our viewers?
KB: Sure. Vitamin K is actually a group of fat-soluble vitamins. Of the two main ones, most people are familiar with vitamin K1. When they say “vitamin K,” they’re referring to K1, which is found in green leafy vegetables and is very easy to get in the diet.
DM: And this is actually what we really see in the literature or in the newspapers. They hardly ever differentiate between vitamin K1 and K2. They just say “vitamin K” – no number attached to it.
KB: Exactly. And that’s created a lot of confusion. It’s one of the reasons why this big important issue was overlooked and still creates confusion when we learn about this nutrient. K1 found in green leafy vegetables, easy to get in the diet, and exclusively participates in blood clotting. That’s its only role in our health. K2 is very different. It comes from different food sources, and its role in the body is in moving calcium around. Specifically, it will guide calcium into the bones and teeth, where we want it to be.
And it will get calcium out to prevent the deposition and even remove calcium from areas where we don’t want it to be, like soft tissues and arteries, for example, where calcium can cause hardening of the arteries. K2 is really critical for keeping our bones strong and our arteries clear. Those are majorly important health concerns, and K2 is a
very important nutrient for those health concerns.
DM: The other vitamin that we think of with calcium, of course, is vitamin D. Can you comment on the interaction between vitamin D and vita min K2?
KB: This is another really interesting story, because we’ve heard so much about vitamin D and the importance of vitamin D for our health. And a lot of people are taking vitamin D. Yet vitamin D and K2 partner up together. A lot of the health benefits that you want from vitamin D, really, you need to have K2 to with it for that to work. When you take vitamin D, your body creates more of these vitamin K2 _ dependent proteins, the proteins that will move the calcium around. They have a lot of potential health benefits. But until the K2 comes in to activate those proteins, those benefits aren’t realized. So, really, by taking vitamin D, you’re creating an increased demand for K2. And vitamin D and K2 work together to strengthen our bones and improve our heart health.
DM: Yeah, it’s really the cement, the important part of the cement that integrates the calcium into the bone matrix… Are there comments or points that we didn’t review or address that you’d like to focus on?
KB: Well, maybe something that we didn’t address directly, but certainly indirectly, that really is so important. I think that readers of my Book will learn that the story of vitamin K is about so much more than just a nutrient or even just nutrition. It really encompasses what we have lost to the industrialization of our food, and what we stand to gain by getting back the old-fashioned ways of farming and eating.
DM: A very important principle, because not only we get vitamin K2, but you avoid all the other garbage that’s put in the processed foods and obtain the other valuables in nutrition that are being removed. You know, I’ve studied health and medicine for many decades now. The more you study it, the simpler it becomes. It really boils down to a few basic principles if you want to stay healthy. People are regularly commenting and asking questions on our site about “How do you treat this really exotic or unusually bizarre condition?” It all comes down to the basic. You’ve got to do the basics first. Yes, there’s going to be some important fine tweaks and customizations, but you’ve got to do the basics. The basics are just what we’ve discussed. Vitamin K2 is a really recently appreciated and important part of those basics. It should be the foundation.
KB: It is. It really is one of the foundations for health and as important as vitamin D, yet it was overlooked for so long.
KB: …I’ve been recommending for over a year now, …to increase your fermented vegetables to two to three ounces a day, making sure they’re fermented with the strains that’s going to produce high-quality vitamin K2. Not only are you going to get K2 for free, but you will get – maybe even more importantly, the integration of the beneficial bacteria into our health – all the micronutrients they produce.
DM: Interaction, symbiosis, and the synergies…
KB: Yeah. No doubt there are cofactors involved there that improve the bioavailability and everything.
DM: I want to thank you very much for your interest in writing this Book and helping us
understand about this really important topic that most people are relatively clueless about largely is the result of the lack of research, which goes back to the fact that we don’t have this simple test. So, if you’re not eating these fermented vegetables or this natto, then you better start doing it soon. But if you still don’t want to do it, then you have to seriously consider getting a vitamin K2 supplement. The better ones would be the natural version, which should be MK-7 , [and] not MK-4.
KB: That’s right.
DM: Okay. Well, thank you for joining us.
KB: Thank you.